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 Post subject: T.S.S.R. Kit List
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:13 am 
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We are representing the pride of Russian armed forces. We should show respect for them by emulating them properly. Half-assed attempts are insulting to them, and to me. And to you! You need to have respect for your uniform. Putin has tried to rebuild the Russian armed forces. Lets try to demonstrate to those who don't know any better that Russia is strong and professional.
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Mandatory Uniform
Flora* BDU (M88, M21 or Mobutu styles)
Flora kepi
Light blue telnyashka
Black boots

*Flora is the selected camo pattern of TSSR. While currently Russia is transitioning from Flora to Digital/Tsfra Summer/Flora pattern, we will continue to use Flora as the standard because its easier to get and more affordable. It also works! Some khaki, VSR and other alternatives will be allowed if Flora versions can't be obtained.

Recommended Uniform
KLMK (for Summer and retro games)
VDV Beret
OD Bandana
Black watchcap

Mandatory Armament for Riflemen
(Available list of brands is in a later post, scroll down)

AKS74
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The preferred wooden version, seen here with a Type 2 AKM bayonet (bayonets are not mandatory)

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Seen here in polymer furniture, which is also acceptable
(AK74M is also acceptable, though wood furniture and skeleton stock are encouraged for retro games)

For specialized roles:
PRKS74 (PRK74 is acceptable)
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SVDS (SVD is acceptable)
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AKMSB (AKMS with PBS-1)
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PKM
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Mandatory Equipment
Appropriate magazines for your type of rifle - I don't want to see 7.62 mags used in 5.45 guns! They should be midcaps!
Russian canteen in any style Russian pouch

Razgruzka (Load Bearing Kit)
For a basic rifleman
6Sh92-5
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(seen in this picture is the vest with ruck sack and drop leg VOG pouches unattached)
Also acceptable for a Grenadier

or

6Sh104 Razvetchik/Recon
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(the 6Sh104 ruck is sold separately, and is not that cheap)
Also acceptable for a Grenadier

or

M23 Pioneer in Les (Woodland)
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(The cheapest razgruzka option, however, I do not recommend it)

For RPK74 Gunner (also recommended for riflemen)
6Sh92 (preferably in Flora) Alternatively 6Sh105 is an updated version of this vest.
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(seen in this picture is the vest with 2 pouches for VOG grenades on the belt and a spare 4 mag pouch and ruck sack unattached, the 6Sh105 version features a better ruck and more pouches for the belt)
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This is a versatile vest. Besides RPK74 Gunner, it is also acceptable for a regular rifleman, and grenadier. It just happens to have mag pouches specifically made for extended magazines used by RPK74 gunners. Since regular riflemen can also use extended magazines, and the vest is just as good for regular magazines, this should also be considered for a rifleman.

For designated marksman
6Sh104 Sniper
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(ruck is not included)

or UMBTS system, see further down - All pouches and ruck are sold separately

For PKM Gunner
6Sh104 Gunner
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(ruck is not included)

For variable roles, depending on the set up
6Sh112 UMBTS (MOLLE system)
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or
ZhTU (MOLLE system)
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or
6B13M (MOLLE system plate carrier)
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or
6B23M (MOLLE system plate carrier)
<insert photo>
I do not recommend the MOLLE system because it is costly and difficult to procure. It also doesn't convey a feeling of Russian-ness.

For sapper
I don't know the specific designation of this vest, just that it is for combat engineers/sappers.
It does have pouches for basic soldatski items like magazines and messkit/canteen, but many other pouches specifically to be used for combat engineering purposes. It is rare that we really get to play the role of diversanti, so it is not often we get to lay mines and booby traps. But when we do, we need to carry our MPLs, trip wires, batteries, tools, remotes, markers, BBs, powders, gas, liquids, steaks, nails, and the actual mines. It is very rare that we need to carry all of the above. Those rare times we split the load between riflemen, carried in their rucks and spare pouches in addition to their regular combat loads. But there is a sapper specific vest, which would be an interesting piece of kit in addition to the above listed vests.
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I believe there is only room for 4 regular or 4 extended magazines, not sure actually. The rest of the pouches are all meant for tools and supplies (besides the kotelok/canteen, bayonet, and MPL though I can't tell if I'm actually looking at an MPL pouch in that photo). It also includes a simple ruck (which still looks better than the 6Sh92 ruck)
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Additional Recommended Gear
+ SSh68 helmet - this is the steel-pot type which is useful for classic and contemporary kits. You can make your own Flora helmet cover, or buy one.
+ 6B2/3/4/5 - for the retro games
+ Bayonet, 6H4 (aka AKM type II) for AKMS/SVD/AKS74-wood-furnished or 6H5 (aka AK74 type) for SVD-polymer-furnished/AK74M/AKS74-polymer-furnished. Bulgarian versions are cheaper and easier to find, and are acceptable substitutes.
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+ Malaya Pihotnaya Lapata (MPL) / Saperka (e-tool/shovel)
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+ RD-54 ruck sack (in Flora for contemporary and tan for retro) 6Sh92/6Sh105, 6Sh92-5 and 6B24 come with rucksacks included. But if you got one used with out a ruck or a damaged one, or you want something a little more useful than the standard 6Sh92 ruck and you need a cheap Flora ruck, this is your only option. The kahaki/classic ones cost more and are less appropriate for contemporary kits.
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(Some RD54 come with a shovel pouch, some don't, its pretty inconsistent)
+ Body Armor/Plate carriers you can find in Flora:
6B5-8
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6B12 <insert picture>,
6B13
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6B23
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6B7 or 6B26 or 6B27 or 6B28 - modern helmets, all versions are acceptable. Replicas are now available.

Extra points go to anyone who actually makes a Flora helmet cover! Then they can use a PASGT or MICH2000 helmet with that cover. There are Flora helmet covers for sale sometimes.

Don't embarrass President Putin or Prime Minister Medvedev!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:19 pm 
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whats the difference between an AKMS and an AK47S with a silencer?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:51 pm 
Handguards, reciever, very tiny mark on the stock, some other small stuff.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:09 pm 
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AEG options for TSSR riflemen:
If you can find it and afford it, get a VFC or LCT version and upgrade it.
Or, just get a late model Cyma or steel version Dboys.

Rifleman weapons
AKS74
APS, CA, Cyma, Dboys/Kalash, Echo1, VFC

AK74M
Cyma, Dboys/Kalash, Echo1, VFC

Specialist weapons
RPKS74
Cyma, Echo1, LCT

SVD (semi auto SVDS is not available yet)
CA, Cyma, Echo1, RealSword

PKM
A&K, Echo1 (coming soon)

AKMS
Cyma, Dboys/Kalash, G&G, VFC

PBS-1 (for AKMS)
Element (one or two other brands that I can't remember)

I don't recommend CA Russian style weapons. Nor do I recommend APS brand (at all!)
TM is not an option for you because you will be incompatible with the rest of the team's mags.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:35 pm 
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will this CYMA AKS74M work as a requirement gun?
or this:
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdet ... odid=24591


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:23 pm 
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AK74M is what Sasha's Echo1 is. Though he got a new stock on it to look more retro, AKS74. For modern kit it is acceptable. But I always encourage guys to go AKS74 with wood so they could more easily do a modern and Afghan kit.

The CM048 wood looks gorgeious! [s]But no S version yet.[s/] I have a feeling that soon enough they will release S versions for the AKS74/CM048 and AKMS/CM048M.

FYI
After AK74 went M the S designation became redundant. All AK74M have folding stocks. And scope mounts, hence no N designation either. Same goes for the 100 series since its based of the AK74M.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Lets explain a little:

AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova (Kalashnikov Assault Rifle).
S- stands for Skladnoi (folding stock),
M- Modernizirovanni (Modernized),
N- Nochnoi (for night, meaning it has a rail attached for a night or other scopes).
U- Ykorochenni (shortened)
B- Bezshumni (silenced)

To add a little to confusion you can find a version AKS-74N (folding with scope rail)

For hole layout you can choose more then one time frame:

Modern- Main for TSSR members
Chechen War- 1994-1996 (First Chechen War) 1999-2001 (Second Chechen War)
Afghan war- 1979-1989

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:01 pm 
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News for potential TSSR gunners:

Cyma will be releasing the first ever out of factory complete RPK74N. Not a clone. Their R&D worked off a real RPK74 to make this AEG replica. Expect to probably see it in the Taiwanese outlets in mid October.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/i ... pic=171644

No dimples. An RPK sight leaf included. RPK74 muzzle break included. And even a dummy bolt. What we don't see if the inner barrel will be full length yet.

Hopefully this will be followed up with an RPKS74.

Yet another great option for those considering joining the Russian side in airsoft.

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 Post subject: Re: Look the part
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:34 pm 
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Mr.Spank wrote:
Don't embarrass President Putin or Prime Minister Medvedev!


you wrote it in 2007, still actual)


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 Post subject: Re: Look the part
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:55 pm 
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I've actually updated it. I don't believe Medvedev was PM back in 2007

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 Post subject: Re: T.S.S.R. Kit List
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Is Digital flora, and SMERSH allowed? Or an RPKS-74 with black furniture instead of wood?


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 Post subject: Re: T.S.S.R. Kit List
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:36 pm 
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Please post up your personal intro in the "Salute!" thread in the Kazarma section.

RPKS74M is acceptable. I'm going to have to update the above listing. Only reason wood is encouraged is for cross-compatibility. No polymer furnished RPKs seen in the 80s. They are actually rare to see even now.
Flora Smersh is acceptable. But if you insist on rocking an RPK74, you are better off with a 6Sh92/6Sh105 because it is optimized for that purpose. It's mentioned above.

Avoid Tsifra/Digital Flora. Although it is phasing out traditional Flora, it is not as effective as a camouflage. And regular Flora is easier/cheaper to get. Considering that all the kit easily adds up, it's nice to have something you can save a few bucks on.

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